Stolen/Reuploaded works

Talk freely about the scene, the world of remixing, or anything off-topic unsuitable for the "Fun Forum".
Zephyrean
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 3
Joined: 19/06/2019 - 11:18

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by Zephyrean » 19/06/2019 - 14:03

As long as it's not an instance of someone claiming to be the creator of somebody else's work, I would consider this particular situation as an instance of free promotion. It's always a possibility that somebody who potentially like your music could come to discover it by that very YouTube video alone. This person also liked your music enough to give it a listen in the first place and even feature it in a gameplay recording, which I would personally find appreciative. Let's not undermine the fact that the uploader was also respectful enough to give credit. That way, if a listener were to stop by and actually catch interest in the music, they do have a clue about what to look for. Otherwise, I suppose viewers can always ask in the comment section if they care to know.

User avatar
poke16384
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 90
Joined: 09/07/2011 - 13:11
Location: Blackburn UK

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by poke16384 » 03/08/2019 - 14:20

Just to prove that making a copyright claim does work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huEUOPDPbgQ

It was a BIG long playlist of remixes from remix64, (mine included obvs)...
It's all about the notes, where you put 'em, what you do with 'em and how long they last

User avatar
C64GLeN
Forum Adept
Forum Adept
Posts: 805
Joined: 26/11/2002 - 22:27
Location: Middlesbrough
Contact:

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by C64GLeN » 03/08/2019 - 15:36

poke16384 wrote:
<span class="hotdate" style="color:#888;">03/08/2019 - 14:20</span>
Just to prove that making a copyright claim does work:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huEUOPDPbgQ

It was a BIG long playlist of remixes from remix64, (mine included obvs)...
Nice.

User avatar
poke16384
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 90
Joined: 09/07/2011 - 13:11
Location: Blackburn UK

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by poke16384 » 13/08/2019 - 11:49

Okay - just submitted another 5 or 6 copyright claims on youtube and noticed that the 2nd part of the video that I had taken down contains remixes by loads of remixers from here, (Mordi, Allister Brimble, Razmo & others). This video is just riddled with adverts...

You guys may want to check it out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AE77tYu5EA8

None of my stuff in this one. So....

Can't believe Jeroen Tel has thanked this guy in the comments section.. (thank you for making money from my original music), Really?

Tracklist :

00:00:00 : Aceman - Hawkeye
00:04:47 : AcidBlock - Pro Ski Simulator ( Winter breaks Remix )
00:08:19 : Adam Morton - Wizball high-score (2008)
00:11:26 : Afterlife Forgotten - Deep
00:15:05 : Allister Brimble - Rambo Reloaded
00:18:52 : Crono - Fifth Axis (The Last Axis mix)
00:21:28 : Darkman007 - Beyond (Cover)
00:27:06 : Darkman007 - Hollywood Poker (Cover)
00:32:44 : Emzed - Logical - Level 3
00:35:25 : Emzed - The Last One
00:38:58 : Foxfield Project - Trantor The Last Stormtrooper (FP Dance Remix)
00:42:30 : Gammasutra - Cosmic Cruiser - Galacto Honoris (Pravda mix)
00:45:31 : Hoylander - Commando Hi-Score theme (Analog style)
00:47:58 : Metal - JT In Space (Twolegs Remix)
00:52:28 : Mordi - Jeroen (Free to Love)
00:55:44 : Mordi vs DJ Skitz - Trick Bag
01:01:30 : Peter W - Cooperation Demo (Peter W RMX)
01:06:50 : Razmo - Mutants
01:12:00 : Rodolphe Bost - Wizball 2012 roudoudouzzz mix
01:15:40 : Steve Foster - Commando High
01:18:47 : Steve Foster - Monty High
01:22:37 : Teo - Monty on the Run (Monty on Acid mix)
01:25:45 : The Phekkis - Midnight Resistance - Stage 9 Remix
01:29:07 : Vincenzo - Dwarf Fly (Flying Barf remix)
01:31:32 : Vred - Great Giana Sisters (piano interlude)
01:32:52 : vurtX - Mutants (Sub 2 Mutation)
It's all about the notes, where you put 'em, what you do with 'em and how long they last

User avatar
C64GLeN
Forum Adept
Forum Adept
Posts: 805
Joined: 26/11/2002 - 22:27
Location: Middlesbrough
Contact:

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by C64GLeN » 13/08/2019 - 11:55

It's not a monetised video/account, is it? I didn't get an ad. Also, the video account's views seem to low to qualify for monetisation.

The video shows as already been removed on the Youtube mobile app but is available on desktop.
Last edited by C64GLeN on 13/08/2019 - 11:58, edited 1 time in total.

User avatar
poke16384
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 90
Joined: 09/07/2011 - 13:11
Location: Blackburn UK

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by poke16384 » 13/08/2019 - 11:58

When I played it through, I got 3 or 4 different ads during...
It's all about the notes, where you put 'em, what you do with 'em and how long they last

User avatar
C64GLeN
Forum Adept
Forum Adept
Posts: 805
Joined: 26/11/2002 - 22:27
Location: Middlesbrough
Contact:

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by C64GLeN » 13/08/2019 - 11:59

poke16384 wrote:
<span class="hotdate" style="color:#888;">13/08/2019 - 11:58</span>
When I played it through, I got 3 or 4 different ads during...
never mind, I got an ad the next time I watched it. :oops:

User avatar
poke16384
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 90
Joined: 09/07/2011 - 13:11
Location: Blackburn UK

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by poke16384 » 13/08/2019 - 12:05

Based on me getting part 1 taken down, a claim from any of the above should do the same for part 2...

To be absolutely clear... I love it when people feel motivated to publish my stuff on YT... but if you haven't contacted me or, in most cases even credited me and you're making revenue from my hard work... then I get pissed off!
It's all about the notes, where you put 'em, what you do with 'em and how long they last

User avatar
poke16384
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 90
Joined: 09/07/2011 - 13:11
Location: Blackburn UK

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by poke16384 » 13/08/2019 - 14:57

Yeah! Another 6 YouTube 'leech videos' taken down! :nod:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGneH6lP-mE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEtvP7Gov8k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVH-AXdQQ8k
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_zJXJYgGJA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfIcu3Tf26U
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1wCAnfrwbfY

One dude emailed me.. asked me to reverse the request with YT so he didn't get a copyright strike and told me I should have had the courtesy to contact him and request him to remove the video... Yeah Right! :duh:

I don't recall a courteous email from him asking if he could make money from my intellectual copyrighted material... :arr:
It's all about the notes, where you put 'em, what you do with 'em and how long they last

User avatar
C64GLeN
Forum Adept
Forum Adept
Posts: 805
Joined: 26/11/2002 - 22:27
Location: Middlesbrough
Contact:

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by C64GLeN » 14/08/2019 - 9:54

Wait, are you striking gameplay videos as well?

I'm not sure copyright strike is the most reasonable way of doing that.

User avatar
Mordi
Forum Hero
Forum Hero
Posts: 576
Joined: 11/03/2008 - 22:05
Contact:

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by Mordi » 14/08/2019 - 14:33

You're getting some bad PR over on twitter. I guess he had a let's play video that got taken down?
Check out my website.

User avatar
poke16384
Forum Regular
Forum Regular
Posts: 90
Joined: 09/07/2011 - 13:11
Location: Blackburn UK

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by poke16384 » 16/08/2019 - 18:44

I respectfully refer you to my previous comment:

"To be absolutely clear... I love it when people feel motivated to publish my stuff on YT... but if you haven't contacted me or, in most cases even credited me and you're making revenue from my hard work... then I get pissed off!"

Even though 'Bubble Bobble' was an arcade conversion and therefore, technically a 'cover version', the C64 version music is still my intellectual property. If you re-publish my work because you like the genre or the individual tunes themselves, that's cool with me. It's a compliment! I feel flattered, humbled even. Once you monetize it and start making revenue from my talent, well! I'm repeating myself...

I'll take the flak from twitter... I'm not the one whose in the wrong here...
It's all about the notes, where you put 'em, what you do with 'em and how long they last

Chris Huelsbeck
Commodore Fan
Commodore Fan
Posts: 10
Joined: 01/05/2003 - 17:49
Location: Arizona
Contact:

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by Chris Huelsbeck » 19/08/2019 - 22:38

Instead of 2 simple take down notices, you sent 2 "copyright strikes" to a classic game fan Youtuber who did a play-through/long-play of 2 games you worked on decades ago? Are you aware that 3 copyright strikes cause complete termination of a Youtube channel (with all videos and subscribers lost forever)? However you might feel about this person "ripping you off so majorly" for the pittance these videos make in ad revenue, this was not the way to handle it properly in my opinion! Take down requests are perfectly fine to handle cases where you feel you got taken advantage of, which I don't even think was the case here. I'd like you to really think about if the punishment fits the "crime" here and consider retracting your claim as the Youtuber has already publicly stated that he would have taken down the videos on request anyway and pledged not to post anything again with your copyrighted works - here's how: https://support.google.com/youtube/answ ... ic=9282363

MoonshineFox
Commodore Fan
Commodore Fan
Posts: 10
Joined: 13/01/2019 - 15:40

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by MoonshineFox » 29/08/2019 - 21:26

I personally sent takedowns only to those who either blatantly stole my work (reuploaded and monetized) or who I sent a request to for them to display credits and link to my page and was either turned down or heard nothing from.

People who use my music fair and square as backing for gameplay or as intros/outros while providing proper credits and linkage are safe from me. I don't mind. But if you take my music, upload it verbatim to your channel and monetize it? I'm coming for you.

Zephyrean
Newbie
Newbie
Posts: 3
Joined: 19/06/2019 - 11:18

Re: Stolen/Reuploaded works

Post by Zephyrean » 16/09/2019 - 22:28

Chris Huelsbeck wrote:
<span class="hotdate" style="color:#888;">19/08/2019 - 22:38</span>
Instead of 2 simple take down notices, you sent 2 "copyright strikes" to a classic game fan Youtuber who did a play-through/long-play of 2 games you worked on decades ago? Are you aware that 3 copyright strikes cause complete termination of a Youtube channel (with all videos and subscribers lost forever)? However you might feel about this person "ripping you off so majorly" for the pittance these videos make in ad revenue, this was not the way to handle it properly in my opinion! Take down requests are perfectly fine to handle cases where you feel you got taken advantage of, which I don't even think was the case here. I'd like you to really think about if the punishment fits the "crime" here and consider retracting your claim as the Youtuber has already publicly stated that he would have taken down the videos on request anyway and pledged not to post anything again with your copyrighted works - here's how: https://support.google.com/youtube/answ ... ic=9282363
Common sense. Fair input.

Post Reply