C64 colors
Posted: 26/03/2006 - 10:54
What emulator has the most accurate colors?
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Posted: 26/03/2006 - 11:55
From my own perception it's WinVICE.
Posted: 26/03/2006 - 12:38
That's a bit subjective, too...
Just as something looks awesome on your monitor, it could look like crap on a different one
Jax
Just as something looks awesome on your monitor, it could look like crap on a different one
Jax
Posted: 26/03/2006 - 17:16
A lot of people use the "Pepto" palette in VICE for screenshots.
Posted: 26/03/2006 - 17:25
Pepto? where can i find those colors? i can't find it in vice...merman wrote:A lot of people use the "Pepto" palette in VICE for screenshots.
Posted: 26/03/2006 - 21:04
I use the Rune64 colourset for WinVice - you can see it in all the BZPD demodisk screenshots. Pleasingly accurate.
Posted: 26/03/2006 - 22:01
palette is in fact subjective.
But WinVice has very useful feature : pal-emulation. It makes picture very similar to the oldfashionable C= monitors.
But WinVice has very useful feature : pal-emulation. It makes picture very similar to the oldfashionable C= monitors.
Posted: 26/03/2006 - 22:45
I thought they'd added it in a recent version, but I can't find it in 1.19.trace wrote:Pepto? where can i find those colors? i can't find it in vice...merman wrote:A lot of people use the "Pepto" palette in VICE for screenshots.
Anyway, here's a link:
http://www.pepto.de/projects/colorvic/
Posted: 26/03/2006 - 22:52
The commonly used palettes for emulation are Pepto's and Deekay's.
Without firing up the emulation debate, colours are quite different (even when using PAL-TV emulation) in comparison to using a C64 on a TV or old C= monitor
I've especially noticed the dark Grey is very strong (almost black). Something I should remember considering I had a 128D when I was a kid which has in the light Green and dark Grey Basic 7 screen. Furthermore the edges of colours blur together too as opposed to sharp colour edges of emulation.
Without firing up the emulation debate, colours are quite different (even when using PAL-TV emulation) in comparison to using a C64 on a TV or old C= monitor
I've especially noticed the dark Grey is very strong (almost black). Something I should remember considering I had a 128D when I was a kid which has in the light Green and dark Grey Basic 7 screen. Furthermore the edges of colours blur together too as opposed to sharp colour edges of emulation.
Posted: 27/03/2006 - 1:12
Doesn't all this depend if people use gamma correction on their video card / Monitor Setup RGB blocks ? Surely if they doin't any colours will come out wrong anyway ! however rendered.
What we really need, is to sample the RGB values from a c64 screenshot in photoshop and compare that with dropper values from (insert emu of choice) to compare.
What we really need, is to sample the RGB values from a c64 screenshot in photoshop and compare that with dropper values from (insert emu of choice) to compare.
Posted: 27/03/2006 - 6:04
Yes, colour correction is a form of art on its own. And, every TV set / monitor was propably adjusted differently regarding brightness, contrast, saturisation etc... thus as the others said the "right" VIC palette remains a subjective thing. WinVice and CCS look pretty much like how I remember it, especially with PAL Emulation. Older versions of Frodo or PC64 just looked wrong / far too saturated.
Posted: 27/03/2006 - 16:29
I think Power64 on Mac is more accurate than most of the PC emus. I haven't A/B tested with a real C64, just my memory.
Posted: 27/03/2006 - 17:04
Pepto's is the default in Power64, for what it's worth.
Posted: 27/03/2006 - 17:21
Those colors do look good allthough i guess it is like you all say gamma correction and old, new monitors and seeing the c64 colors on a tv is ALOT differentmerman wrote:I thought they'd added it in a recent version, but I can't find it in 1.19.trace wrote:Pepto? where can i find those colors? i can't find it in vice...merman wrote:A lot of people use the "Pepto" palette in VICE for screenshots.
Anyway, here's a link:
http://www.pepto.de/projects/colorvic/
And much i guess is in the eyes of the beholder
Posted: 27/03/2006 - 17:34
For your convenicence:
http://www.remix64.com/download.php/282/pepto.vpl
http://www.remix64.com/download.php/282/pepto.vpl