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hey - my name is simon and i am writing, because i have a question and need proffessional advice :-) i tripped over your email adress somewhere in the internet on my search for new informaiton. maybe i am lucky and you can help me finding some answers...


here the story:

i have a studio, set up with mostly instruments of the 80s - amongst them there is also a emu-sp12. i bought it from america and with it came a 1541 for storage. unfortunately america runs 115V and the 1541 could not be switched over to 220V (lucky the sp12 could :-). so i sold the "american" 1541 and looked for a "european" one at ebay and google. in the end i found someone who calls himself "mr.museum" (he´s a real c64 fanatic). i had a few things he needed ( some old c64-console housings i bought from conrad-elektronik many years ago ) and so we came into business quickly. for the housings he didn´t only offer me one 1541 (what i originally wanted) - no, he gave me two1541s + a c64II + geos and a few other progs + all the cables......

once recieved i got adicted :-) now i am using star-commander all day long and playing LCP constantly - learning to make sam-reciter speak etc. you know i like to use toys in my music - i already use a gameboy, speak&spell, stylophone, casio SK1 / PT50 / VL-tone and so on.

so for me, the c64-sid-chip is the next logical step :-)

i am looking for a C64 program which meets my needs in terms of midi capabilities. partly i found the functions i want but never combined into one program. there are several ideas i have and i am sure there will be a solution to one at least.

the idea is, that i want to integrate my C64 (or rather more the sid-chip) into the midi-environment in my studio. you might help me in finding the right program for me. i have already checked many many progs, but i never found exactly what i want.

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1. - the first idea is a program which will let me play the sid chip via midi and edit the parameters with a graphical interface within the C64-program. i have found one called "midi-slave" but it has numeric input, which i find very uncreative.

i´d like one with graphical faders, knobs and sliders like the program called "digital recording studio" - this one is very cool in editing - but didn´t seem like having midi-capabilities...

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2. - then there is a program called M64 which is cool. maybe someone has already programed it and can tell me how to do it best... also i would like to control it by a cubase mixer-map instead of a keyboard - does anyone already have one for me?????

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3. - the coolest idea and maybe the best would be a simple tracker/loop program, which will sync to a trigger or midi-klick source. then it would be possible to use all three channels of the sid and sync them with the rest of my midi-equipment.


well, maybe you have a suggestion - i don´t want to buy a "sid-station" , "quadra-sid" or "hard-sid" - i want the original C64 to do the job...!!!

it would be very cool of you to help out - tell me about your experiences and programs i could try.

if you can´t help, maybe you could pass this mail on to someone you know.

thanx in advance, best regards - simon




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Post by dan gillgrass »

U may want a "sid-station"
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That's precisely what he didn't want :)
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Post by Fnord »

hello chris - so we meet once again :-)

correct - a sid-station is what i don´t want, nor a hardsid...

I WANT THE REAL C64 TO DO THE JOB - with all the disadvantages it brings....
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About 2-3 years ago I spent many months searching the earth for a C64 midi interface, I wanted to connect my PC to C64 and use the Sid chip via midi also. My reasoning was that I hated all manner of PC music / midi packages, and never found anything as good as things like Demo Music Creator on the C64.

A friend of mine in the US managed to get hold of a midi interface which he sold to me. Although it didn't actually work in any applications on the C64 I did figure out how to program it myself in asm. I made some futile attempts at writing an application but never really got anywhere, mostly due to the fact I couldn't have my Action Replay cartridge in at the same time :)

So my point is.... errrr what was my point... Ahhh. It was the fact that I wanted exactly what you wanted :) and almost had it within my grasp. Sadly time moved on (although I still have all my equipment), and I eventually found Sonar and Cubase, along with ReFx Sid plugin and settled with this. I was always unhappy with the filter clicks generated by real Sid chips anyhow, so in all honesty I wasn't that bothered sticking with plugins instead.

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